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Old 05-23-2008, 07:23 PM   #71
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Yeah hedidn't seem to hgappy about that statement from Chris.
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Old 05-24-2008, 01:52 PM   #72
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People like this are a poison in the recruiting process- parents or relatives who try to hog the limelight for themselves, pretending to offer "guidance" to these kids.

Anyway here are this dimwit's comments on the Goebbel recruitment and on Watt(for what they are worth)


http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/f...l-offer-8.html

Yes I get the impression CW's father is a ND fan. But remember that his father did not join Chris @ 1st visit to OSU. He will join Chris on 2nd visit some time in next 60 days. Chris is similar to Garrett in terms of humble and a young man of few words (which is why I wanted to assist him any way possible) Every prospect has different issues that have priority when making their final decision and I respect that in Chris.!!!

In Garrett's case he (Garrett) desires to have a great chance of playing for a NATIONAL CHAMPION!!! As well as practicing with outstanding competition each day...a challenge he savors.

This may or may not be as big a factor in Chris's decision......time will tell.



I would like to clarify one point regarding why Chris Watt (& family) requested my assistance in helping to manage his recruiting process. Due to my familiarity with numerous programs / recruiting coordinators as a result of managing my nephew Garrett Goebel as well as a former teamate of Watt's they (the Watt family) realized that it can only benefit the recruit to NOT PUT THIS ENTIRE RESPONSIBILITY ON High School Head coaches. Fortunately for Chris, Coach Hetlet has done an awesome job getting Chris recruited. After OSU offerred Chris I realized that in all fairness to the Watt's I HAVE TO BE OBJECTIVE AND NOT ATTEMPT TO PERSUADE HIM TO BECOME A BUCKEYE.

Also having been familiar with the Buckeye's recruiting if I was to pressure Chris I would be working against OSU's low key approach.

Overall my involvement in Chris Watt's recruiting is VERY SIMILAR to Garrett Goebel's.....sending out his film, following up to make sure film is viewed..THE REST SELL'S ITSELF DUE TO THE RECRUITS SUPERB ABILITIES!!!

For those of you who followed Garrett Goebel's recruiting journey may recall that the last school Garrett visited was U of MICHIGAN. However at that time (July) Garrett was already 95% sure that the Buckeyes were the "perfect fit" for him. Since MICHIGAN was late to offer Garrett he did not even want to look into their offer. As a reputable program & to ensure no regrets I ENCOURAGED GARRETT VISIT THERE......I knew it was a mute point though as Garrett's heart was with Buckeyes for months prior. But you must leave "no stone unturned" in today's complex recruiting environment.

I feel that once Watt makes a second visit his mind will be close to a final decision......IMO

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Old 05-24-2008, 02:38 PM   #73
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What's poisonous about what he's doing? Everything he said there is just promoting Watt and putting no pressure on him to go anywhere. The only reason he joined the Ohio State board was because he knew Garrett was leaning to Ohio State. He doesn't have any ties to the program and he isn't pushing kids towards the program. He helped when asked.

What's so bad about that?

No doubt he's exuberant, but he's hardly poisonous.
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Old 05-24-2008, 03:54 PM   #74
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The guy sounds like a total douche. He professes how wonderful a person he is by "helping" these pooor young men who would be lost without him and his extensive experience. The guy is totally pushing OSU, "National Championship BS?" WTF! OSU is a good team but didn't they get their ASSES handed to them in the last 2 NC games? ah, yeah. Good to get there but you actually need to win the game b/c they put up banners saying "CAME IN 2ND". Last time I check ND wasn't too bad a football program with the exception of 1 year and I don't see that happening again anytime soon. This isn't directed so much at OSU as this asshole.
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Old 05-24-2008, 05:30 PM   #75
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What's poisonous about what he's doing? Everything he said there is just promoting Watt and putting no pressure on him to go anywhere. The only reason he joined the Ohio State board was because he knew Garrett was leaning to Ohio State. He doesn't have any ties to the program and he isn't pushing kids towards the program. He helped when asked.

What's so bad about that?

No doubt he's exuberant, but he's hardly poisonous.
Poisonous isn't a good word to describe the poster in question. The word exuberant doesn't seem to fit, either. Based on my limited readings of his posts, I can only think of one term to describe the poster known as XPUNIHER; Self-promoting. Why else would he post about his supposed role in both the Gobel and the Watt recruitments on an Ohio State forum?

His posts scream, "Look at me! I'm guiding these great young men (in a totally unbiased manner, of course) into the best decision for them, and that decision is going to be Ohio State.". While he doesn't directly ask for it, XPUNISHER is just begging to be thanked for his good deeds, and he therefore only brings them up around Ohio State fans. If his only concern was his "client" (what does he call their relationship?), the poster wouldn't reveal his relationship to said client, let alone his thought process or how close he is to committing to a certain school (i.e. the "one more visit" comment).

His response to Watt's revealing they had not talked in two months was hilarious. His role was to get film to coaches and make sure they watch them? First off, the implication that he is the one bringing attention to Watt, an elite high school athlete, shows that he is either deluded or assumes everyone else is dumb enough to believe it. Secondly, I believe that high school coaches do this type of thing fairly early in the careers of those who definitely have a future at the next level, like Watt. This guy just wants to be praised for helping good young men choose Ohio State, plain and simple.

To conclude, this guy is the worst type of poster, and I'm grateful we have no posters of his kind at Gold Helmet.
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Old 05-24-2008, 05:37 PM   #76
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What's poisonous about what he's doing? Everything he said there is just promoting Watt and putting no pressure on him to go anywhere. The only reason he joined the Ohio State board was because he knew Garrett was leaning to Ohio State. He doesn't have any ties to the program and he isn't pushing kids towards the program. He helped when asked.

What's so bad about that?

No doubt he's exuberant, but he's hardly poisonous.
Dude, I went back and read some of his posts and to me he seems like a real slim ball. First off he trashed our recruit Cwynar, called him overrated, cocky, and inferior to Goebel after Cwynar won Illinois Mr Football over Goebel and Filer. He made up some story about Cwynar taking trash to Goebel over the internet, which is the biggest pile of BS I ever heard. Cwynar is one of the nicest young men around, an honor student, and had nothing but complimentary things to say about all the finalists for Illionis player of the year. In fact heres his quote

“I wasn’t expecting to win it,” Cwynar said. “It was cool. It’s a real big trophy. Those guys were two real good players. Just to be nominated as one of top three players, when you look at all the all-state players around the state, 20 in each class, was an honor. To be Player of the Year is just awesome.”

Yeah, that Sean Cwynar what a bastard huh. And then Mr. Goebel alleges Cwynar won only cause there was a ND bias involved, and finally to top it off he organizes a internet campaign to get as many votes for Goebel and trash Cwynar on a Chicago website poll.

Second of all he goes on and on about Goebel not being arrogant, then at the same time says Goebel never seriously considered Michigan cause they offered him to late and he felt slighted. I don't know the kid but if this is true I would say its pretty arrogant.

His best posts though are when Goebels team loses a game or Goebel himself loses a wrestling match, you never seen a guy make so many excuses. He makes it seem like the refs are on the take when ever the result aren't in his favor.

Again I can go on and on, but I just hope Watt's doesn't listen to this guy, I hope he takes in to consideration his own feelings and his families when making a decision cause they're the ones that have his best interest in mind.
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Old 05-24-2008, 07:38 PM   #77
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I never denied he doesn't like the attention, but there hasn't been any evidence of him pushing anyone towards OSU. Watt said he hasn't pushed and Goebel said he wasn't pushed by his uncle(like I said, he didn't go to Buckeyeplanet until it became apparent that OSU lead for Ohio State). Again, no ties to OSU and no evidence of him pushing anyone towards OSU. Yeah he's annoying, but he's not sleazy.

I guess I've just seen a lot worse people involved in recruiting, so someone like Garrett's uncle doesn't bother me too much.
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Old 05-24-2008, 07:54 PM   #78
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I never denied he doesn't like the attention, but there hasn't been any evidence of him pushing anyone towards OSU. Watt said he hasn't pushed and Goebel said he wasn't pushed by his uncle(like I said, he didn't go to Buckeyeplanet until it became apparent that OSU lead for Ohio State). Again, no ties to OSU and no evidence of him pushing anyone towards OSU. Yeah he's annoying, but he's not sleazy.

I guess I've just seen a lot worse people involved in recruiting, so someone like Garrett's uncle doesn't bother me too much.
He's on an Ohio State board and helped get his nephew to OSU... perhaps you're a little biased. I'm sure if he was on GH and got him into ND - you'd see the light. There'd probably be 15 threads over there bashing him.
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Old 05-24-2008, 07:55 PM   #79
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I heard Tressel promised to let him dot the "I" at a game next year if he helps land Watt
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this kid would be great to have. would lock the interior line up for years. but we are still needing the monster outside guy at tackle
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